Echofon Pro for Twitter – Crossover Review with Bird House Rules

by Doc Coleman - Nifty Tech Editor on August 16, 2010 · 4 comments

in Crossover, iOS

Welcome to the second in the series of reviews with Tee Morris from the Bird House Rules podcast. In this series we are looking at Twitter clients for the iPad. Tee and I sat down and recorded audio for the Bird House Rules podcast, and I’m posting a companion review here. I encourage all my readers to also check out the audio from the podcast. You don’t need an iPod to listen to the podcast, just something that can play an MP3 file. I hope you’ve enjoying this series as much as we enjoy bringing it to you.

Last time we looked at Tweet Flow. This time we’re looking at Echofon Pro for Twitter. Echofon is one of a group of Twitter apps that we tend to think of as old familiar favorites. In Echofon’s case this is because it started out as Twitterfon, a Twitter client for the Mac and the iPhone. If you’re familiar with Echofon on any of these platforms, then you have a good idea what you’ll see on the iPad. But with Echofon Pro, they’ve re-vamped things to take advantage of the iPad’s screen space. Echofon was written by Naan Studio, Inc, and is available from the App Store for $4.99. Echofon Pro is a plus app, meaning that it will work on the iPhone as well as the iPad, but most of the functions we’ll be talking about only exist on the iPad. Echofon is a full-featured Twitter client aimed at handling just about anything you might want to do on Twitter. We believe that it comes pretty darn close.

The first place where Echofon moves past Tweet Flow is in its ability to handle multiple Twitter accounts. You can set up as many accounts as you like, Echofon will let you switch between them at will. Admittedly, you can only view tweets associated with one account at a time, but very few clients will allow you to look at tweets from multiple accounts at the same time.

As you would expect, Echofon handles both landscape and portrait views. Portrait may be better when you’re just reading what is in your stream as it lets you see more tweets at one time, but to see more of what Echofon can do, we’re pretty much going to concentrate on the Landscape views.

Same tweets, just a more expanded menu bar on the left side. The Home section naturally shows you all of the tweets in your Twitter stream. The tweets are automatically updated every one, two, or three minutes according to how you’ve updated your settings. By default, it updates every minute. You can turn off auto-updating if you like, or refresh by tapping the refresh icon in the upper right corner.

Naturally, Echofon will show you your Mentions, Direct messages, and Favorites. Unlike Tweet Flow, Echofon also handles Twitter Lists, both lists you’ve created and ones that include your account. You can also create and save searches and check on trends in the tweets in your local area, across the country, or across the world. This is a fully featured app, so we won’t be doing a complete walkthrough like we did with Tweet Flow. We’ll just be looking at a few of the highlights.

One of the strengths of Echofon has always been its ability to track a reply back to the tweet that prompted the reply and to pull up the related tweets in the conversation. You’ll notice in the above screen shot that all the tweets have an icon on the right of two overlapping conversation bubbles. That is the button for tracking back the rest of the conversation.

When you click the button, Echofon pops up a windowlet and shows the conversation so far as a chat window. Tweets are ordered with the oldest first and the more recent below. Not only does Echofon detect the tweet replied to, it finds any other tweets associated with the conversation in question and displays them. This includes comments from third parties, and any other comments made after the tweet whose button you clicked. While many other clients also supply this kind of conversation tracking, Echofon seems to have one of the best algorithms out there for  selecting the relevant tweets.

Direct messages are organized according to the sending account. This way you can see just the exchanges you’ve had with a particular person and not have to sort them out from a list of unrelated direct messages.

Another thing that Echofon does that most clients do not do is show you all of your followers the same way that Twitter does. Most clients will list everyone that you’re following or that is following you, but they will alphabetize the list. While this is conventient if you are looking up a particular person, it is less useful if you’re looking for the last five people who followed you. On the users tab, Echofon presents users order by time, with the most recent followers on top.

Tap the compose icon in the upper right corner, and Echofon slides up the keyboard and the compose windowlet.

The compose screen is pretty straightforward, but there are a couple cool features built into the compose screen. If you want to add a mention to someone to your tweet, either because you’ve got multiple people in the conversation or because you’re starting a message to someone that isn’t a reply to anything previous, click the icon of the two silhouettes in the top left and a windowlet will pop down to display the people you are following in an alphabetical list and with a search window so you can search for a particular person.

The other nifty tool that Echofon has is the way it allows you to select pictures. If you want to share a photo from your iPad with your friends, tap on the camera icon in the lower left corner of the compose window. Echofon will first present you with a list of all your different collections of photos on the iPad, albums, the main library, people and places. Then once you select a collection, it will show you a matrix of all the pictures in that collection.

At this point, most clients make you select a photo from this view. Just tap it and that is the photo you’ve selected. Echofon takes this one further. Select a photo from this matrix and Echofon gives you a view of the photo, not just the thumbnail.

If you’ve got several similar pictures, you can look at each one and make sure you’ve selected the right one. The picture doesn’t get added to your message until you click the Use button in the upper right corner. The camera icon becomes a thumbnail of the picture you selected until you finish composing your tweet. You can even tap it again and change the photo selected or clear the photo altogether. The photo doesn’t get uploaded to your chosen hosting service until you click send.

Unfortunately, Echofon will only let you put one photo into a tweet at a time. But hopefully some future update will allow you to post multiple photos.

When your photo, or someone else’s, shows up in the tweet stream, in addition to the URL in the text of the tweet, you’ll also see a thumbnail of your tweet off to the right.

Tap the thumbnail, and Echofon opens a larger windowlet and displays the picture for you. In the bottom left is a button that lets you save the image, and in the bottom right is a button to let you go to the page the image is being displayed from. The icon of this latter button is rather poorly chosen as a speech bubble. I wouldn’t think that clicking on a speech bubble would take me to a web page, but that is what it does. Otherwise, it is a nice way to handle pictures.

As nice as Echofon is in many ways, it does have some rather unintuitive features. It has settings for the application overall, and settings that are particular for each Twitter account. These account specific settings tend to be buried, making them difficult to access.

Another odd thing is that when you tap on a tweet to select it, Echofon puts up a very helpful context menu with options.

The odd thing is that the last option is “More”. Tap more and you get some additional options, but no way to get back to the first group of options. And why do you need two menus of options when there is plenty of screen space to list them all? This may be a holdover from earlier iPhone versions of the application. We shall watch eagerly to see if it is addressed in future versions.

While Echofon may have a few quirks and stumbling blocks, it is an excellent Twitter client. For some folks, it may be just what the doctor ordered. For quite a while it was my favorite Twitter client. And it may take that place again. But next week, we’ll be talking about one of Tee’s favorities. If you listened to the podcast, I’ll bet you can already guess what it is! See you in two weeks for the next in the series.

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Orion August 16, 2010 at 4:15 PM

These comments cover both the Nifty Tech Blog review here and the podcast over on Bird House Rules.Wow, you guys left out so many features that make this a great client like push notifications and how you can set a timeframe where they are disabled. Also, Yfrog isn't even an option when attaching images much less the default.Also, I know how Tee didn't like how the settings are navigated but I like how they've broken the settings into global and user categories. Did you notice how you can have different push notification settings per account? How cool is that? Without looking you can know which account is being engaged in a DM or @message.When you select a tweet the nifty menu appears with the More option at the end and if you select More a new set of options are displayed. It was mentioned there's no way to get back to the first set of options. But there is. While the second set are displayed simply touch the tweet. Pretty Nifty, no?While the way Echofon tracks and displays threaded conversations is nice it fails in one regard. It's missing a Reply To All function. To make matters more confusing, if you tap the reply icon (BTW, you guys use the term click as if you're using a mouse. You must unlearn what you have learned. ;^) It's a touch device, get used to saying touch or tap.) what happens is you are defaulted to replying to the LAST tweet in the thread which may not be tweet you selected to view the converation! Hopefully they'll fix these and other oddities in future updates. Unfortunately, since I started tweeting just over a year ago at the encouragement of non other than TeeMonster, I've long since progress to the point where a nice client like Echofon no longer meets my needs. However, though it doesn't meet my needs as a client to tweet from I do keep it installed just for the Push Notifications!! So when I get the alert I simply launch my current client of choice. I won't say which it is. Wouldn't want to influence your review list. I look forward to your future reviews. You two work well as a team.

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Doc Coleman August 16, 2010 at 6:21 PM

Orion,Thanks for your comments. We can't cover everything in a review, so some things naturally get left out either by choice or as an oversight. You do have a point that Echofon offers excellent Push notification control and will often catch the push when other clients will drop it.While neither of us had issues with there being both global and per account settings, we found the path that a users has to traverse to get to those settings to be very counter-intuitive.In general, Echofon does do a good job of providing a complete set of functions, but at times the way they present them is unintuitive or hard to find. Like the lack of a Reply to All you mentioned on the conversation screen. To reply to all, you have to go back to the twitter stream, find the reply you want to respond to, tap it, tap More, and then tap Reply to All. Less than intuitive.Thanks for the comments, and the compliment. And keep on pointing out things you think we've missed. We've still got a number of Twitter clients to go through, hopefully we'll hit your current fave. But if we miss it, be sure to speak up when we wrap up the series.Doc

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@gardengeri July 9, 2013 at 12:54 PM

I have been using the free Echofon app on my iPhone for 3 1/2 years and it suddenly refuses to retrieve photos from my library in posts and says ” This app does not have access to your photos and videos ” (although it always did in the past.

I have searched Echofon settings and iPhone settings to give it the access but I cannot find where to do so.

Does it want me to pay $4. 99 for Echofon Pro before it will post from my Library? Thanks for any help.

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Doc Coleman - Nifty Tech Editor July 9, 2013 at 11:10 PM

Geri,

I don’t think this is an attempt by Echofon to get you to upgrade to the Pro version. I just tried tweeting an image from Echofon Pro on my iPhone, and while it didn’t have any problems accessing my photos and letting me chose one to include in my post, it seems to be stuck in the photo uploading portion. I will have to see about re-loading the free Echofon client on my phone and see if I can re-create your problem.

In the meantime, you may want to consider deleting Echofon from your iPhone and then re-installing it to reset the access privileges. I have had issues like that in the past where re-installing cleared things up for me.

Perhaps someone else can chime in with some advice.

Doc

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